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 What happens when a Lord and a Cabinet Office Minister are asked about chemtrails. Er, nothing

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What happens when a Lord and a Cabinet Office Minister are asked about chemtrails. Er, nothing

Below is an email to Jim Knight, (Lord Knight of
Weymouth) and Oliver Letwin, (Minister of State at the Cabinet Office),
and their responses to concerns about chemtrails


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" The point of sharing all that this email
contains is because my conscience won't allow me to keep doing nothing
but talk about it
with people who don't even have a clue what it is
i'm sharing with them , or simply don't want to think that their
government would lie to
them let alone spew chemicals on them daily.



After reading , watching , researching and talking
,I'm done with sitting around so will you please read on and come back
to me with your
thoughts prior to me writing to the many famous
people I have connected with through my fundraising efforts, to share
what I have learned,
asking for their support in getting this
information out there, as it seems the people in this celebrity driven
world are all ears when
they have something to share.



As the extensive operation of anomalous aerosol
activity in our skies continues, the efforts of many hardworking and
deeply concerned
activists are bearing fruit. Despite the ongoing
intense secrecy and a particularly vicious disinformation campaign
designed to dissuade
the public from even looking into this matter,
more and more people are nevertheless becoming aware of this phenomenon.
Every day, the
original salient questions are being asked all
over again by a number of newly awakened and startled citizens. What am I
looking at here?
How can I know that something strange is going on?
How do I know who to believe? The following information is an attempt
to provide a
model for individual investigation, suitable for use by any interested and open-minded citizen.



All people of sound mind, sufficiently motivated
to do so, have the innate capacity to answer the fundamental questions
about chemtrails
for themselves. There is no need to take someone else s word for any of this. In fact, in a world of second-hand and derivative
information, the best action we can take is to use
our own mental powers and direct perceptions in pursuit of the basic
truth. Because
there is no great difficulty in satisfying a reasonably rigorous mind as to the presence of something very strange in our skies.

There is a relatively simple method to prove the
existence of chemtrails overhead in your own area, as opposed to normal
contrails. This
do-it-yourself proof only takes time, patience,
and normal powers of observation. The following outline will attempt to
describe an
optimum generic situation in order to make this experiment available to as many people as possible.



The first step
requires establishing a minimum familiarity with routine airplane
traffic in your location. This is a matter of public

record, but it is much easier to see for yourself
just by watching and recording the times and directions of scheduled air
traffic. At
regular times the flights to and from various
locations from Companies A, B and C fly along their normal flight paths
above you. These
times and flight paths do not vary much in normal
circumstances and are easily observed day after day, week after week, at
approximately
the same time, position, and altitude. Especially
away from major urban centers, there is a fairly easily observable
pattern to normal
fight traffic in one s area, even considering the variations and changes now and again. If you live where contrails are a normal
occurrence in the atmosphere, then also look
carefully over a period of time at how long they tend to last under
differing weather
conditions, at different times. Keeping notes of
personal observations from the beginning will be very useful in
establishing the ordinary
daily picture overhead in your own area.



Normal air traffic is of course obliged by law to
follow normal flight regulations. This means that each plane must keep a
considerable
distance from all others, in its own generously
allotted airspace. Even without consciously thinking about this, we all
have unconsciously
registered the usual distances planes keep from
others in our local skies. If you don t live near a large airport, then
this will be
especially obvious. The first easy step towards
proving to yourself and others that chemtrails actually exist will
present itself when
three or four or more planes fly back and forth close together across the sky.



No normal air traffic ever does any such thing as
fly in close formation, turn, and fly back together over the same
airspace. Even if you
are not able to watch them turn together, you will
be able to see the unusual closeness of these formations of aircraft
without any
trouble. A good pair of binoculars will reveal that the common type of white chemtrail planes have no company logos or any other
identifying markings. Their close proximity to one
another violates all commercial FAA regulations as well. These are
important facts and
proof positive that this isn't regular commercial
traffic. You now know you are at the very least looking at military
flights. An
additional proof that these are military planes
(although none is needed) is that the flight formation, in the time and
space you are
noting, will not appear in normal FAA flight
records. The FAA does not record military traffic, and will be happy to
tell you so.



The next step is to watch for the eye-catching
phenomena of the unusual patterns and unusual qualities of trails
accompanying such a
formation. If you look up in the sky and see
several grids and X s forming from this close group of unmarked planes,
where normally such
patterns do not exist, then here is the chance to
build your own proof that chemtrails do exist. If you have been watching
the regular
flights overhead, then you know that these
formations are anomalous. These are not Companies A, B, and C flying
their usual routes in
their usual ways. And now is the chance to prove
to your own satisfaction that these military planes are also discharging
something other
than jet fuel. Over time, as you have been noting
the regularity of commercial air traffic in your local airspace, you
will also have been
observing the behavior of emissions from normal
commercial air traffic. The contrails from these will usually appear to
be normal
contrails, dissipating in the normal time and
manner for the circumstances. By now you will have also established what
kind of linear
patterns in the atmosphere normal contrails leave,
as dictated by the air space commercial traffic must maintain between
planes at all
times.



Under the very same weather and altitude
conditions in which you have been seeing normal commercial traffic
emissions produce whatever
kind of contrail is normal for your locality, you
will most likely now see something else entirely. It is almost always
possible to
directly observe that these unmarked planes flying
in close formation are leaving a very different kind of trail. First of
all, as stated,
the trails being left are usually in odd
checkerboard, grid, X s, stripes, or even circles. This is very
distinctly abnormal compared to
what you will see resulting from normal airline
traffic. Secondly, only these military planes are leaving trails that do
not dissipate, as
the others do under the very same weather and
altitude conditions. Instead, they very slowly spread out over the sky
and join together,
forming a distinct cloudy haze. This again is
easily provable by simple observation. All you have to do is watch this
happen over a period
of a few hours at the most, and often within a
much shorter time span. The standard explanation of ice crystals and
contrail formations
self-destructs here right before your eyes.
Because under the conditions in which we have observed chemtrails, all
the other air traffic
in the vicinity at the time, at approximately the
same altitudes, are leaving normal contrails. These normal contrails are
definitely not
spreading out and coalescing into a thick hazy "cloud" cover.



Therefore by means of simple patient direct
perception of these two distinct types of trails occurring nearly
simultaneously, you can see
for yourself that a highly sophisticated
disinformation campaign is being waged around this issue. There has been
a military operation
dispersing aerosols of unknown origins, for
unknown reasons, throughout our atmosphere for the last couple of years.
Whatever these
aerosols are, and whatever their purpose is, they
are at the very least in direct violation of the law of informed consent
and the EPA s
own laws of atmospheric discharges.



Much confusion arises due to not taking the time
to observe carefully the slow unfolding of the phenomena of chemtrails
overhead, as
compared to normal contrail formations in the
immediate vicinity. We need to take the time first and foremost to
establish the image in
our minds of what normal contrails actually look
like it our own locations. It is not possible to go out and look at the
sky every once in
a while and try to guess from scratch what we are
looking at, with no familiarity with local conditions, weather and
routine flight paths.
Once we consciously recognize the standard for
normal , then we will instantly recognize these anomalies and be able to
closely follow how
chemtrails unfold in our skies. Extensive research
indicates clearly that the military has many reasons for drastically
altering the
chemistry of our atmosphere at this time. It is to
be hoped therefore that rather than dismiss this issue, or leave it to
others to
investigate the truth of all this, that citizens
of our country assume the responsibility for judging for themselves what
is happening
behind our backs and above our heads.



In case you haven't heard of Chemtrails , I know you have Jim , you said you weren't convinced .
A few links ......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnky5lfZVM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VLNNwiKvlE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-PkMyVErs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noBnyvccN5Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3VvXOkCI4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDxPIkqYZzI



If your thinking the government wouldn't spew chemicals on people.Remember this !


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Not just local, it's global ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43026Eoxdos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIm7AyYyh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKIq9Hh0Mfc

http://www.naturalnews.com/022838_chemtrails_military_health.html

http://rense.com/general77/widesp.htm



Please respond with your thoughts !

Kind Regards,

Julie "



Jim's response:



Hi Julie

Good to hear from you.

You are right I am sceptical and am happy to explain why.

The basis of the chemtrail theory is a secret
international military operation to spray chemicals over a civilian
population. That in
itself I find very hard to believe but accept that I may be seen as
part of the establishment and will therefore always look to protect
those in power. I hope you know that I try to keep an open mind and so have tried to examine the theory further.

The basis of evidence for chemtrails appears to be
the anomalous aerosol activity that is visible in clear days as trails
across the sky.
These would normally be explained as contrails from aircraft but
suspicion is raised by the grid and X patterns that do not conform to
any flight patterns that would have to be known for reasons of air
safety. I am happy to admit that finding a cast iron explanation for
these patterns is difficult but I am equally happy to believe that
there are unexplained air movements than can result in these vapour
clouds without believing it is due to a covert spraying operation.

My recollection of my degree in geography, including some study of meteorology, means I find the following highly persuasive:

First, let’s establish how a normal contrail is
formed. When burned, fuel containing hydrogen is combined with oxygen
in the air to form
water vapor, among other byproducts. Under certain conditions, that
vapor will condense to form a visible trail – an artificial cloud,
for all intents and purposes. Because the high temperature of the
exhaust gas keeps the water in a vapor state until it has a chance to
mix with the colder surrounding air, this artificial cloud will always
form some distance behind the aircraft, rather than directly aft of
the engines. If atmospheric conditions support a “persistent”
contrail, it will most likely become more visible and spread to a more
natural cloud-like state with distance from the aircraft.

If an aircraft were spraying some form of liquid or powdered solid,
such as bacterial agents or aluminum particulates as suggested by
many theorists, it should be most visible directly behind the trailing
edge of the wing (or wherever the nozzles may be located), becoming
less visible as it dissipates in the atmosphere in the wake of the
plane. This is exactly what you would observe when watching a crop
duster. Yet, in every photo of an aircraft producing a “chemtrail” I
have seen, the opposite is true. They all look like normal
contrails.

Having said that, it is possible to make a sprayed agent behave as a
contrail. In the case of a liquid, it would have to be heated to
the point of vaporization, so that the vapor would re-condense in a
manner consistent with a normal contrail – some distance behind the
aircraft.

If the liquid were used as a medium for biological agents, the
temperature required would most likely kill the microbes. If the high
vapor temperature didn’t do the job, then the extremely low temperature
of the surrounding atmosphere just might. Assuming these
biological agents survived the hostile environment, they would tend to
have a very slow rate of descent back to earth due to their
microscopic size. (Microscopic dust from volcanoes is known to remain
in the upper atmosphere for years after an eruption.) In all
likelihood, atmospheric disturbances would scatter them and they
wouldn’t even land in the area they were released. All in all, this
seems an inefficient method of “bombing” the population with any type of harmful agents, if that is the intent.

A reliable method would be to release the agents at very low altitudes,
as is done by fire suppression aircraft and crop dusters. Yet,
no one seems to be presenting any evidence that this is indeed the case.
It therefore seems to me that if a chemical or biological agent were
being sprayed there would be video evidence of the aircraft
themselves. It also seems highly unlikely that such a military
programme would derive such an inefficient method leaving visual
"evidence"
in the sky.
Sorry to be a sceptic but that is my conclusion after a limited amount of research.
Best

Jim

Lord Knight of Weymouth



Oliver's response:



Dear Julie

I'm afraid I agree with Jim. I am very sceptical.

Best

Oliver


Source:-
http://mikecroley.wix.com/chemtrails
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